Saturday, January 23, 2010

I have a very bad memory , any advice?

I never remember names and numbers.


Any special food or drink?


Or something to do or not to do?I have a very bad memory , any advice?
try doing crosswords, jigsaw puzzels. to remember a name think of a fruit or viegietable that starts with the persons name. example. apple for annI have a very bad memory , any advice?
nuts. No, you're not nuts- eat nuts. And fish- cod liver oil would be good. And concentrate more. The fear of forgetting causes one to forget (i read that somewhere)





good luck! i hope you remember this advice
haven't touched a darkroom in some ten years or so.


However I am really fed up with the digital world and want to start with the good old darkroom again.





But the thing is that I really don't remember some basic stuff like:





I think that I used to first see how long a basic time would take using filter 2.5. After that I tested different contrast (depended how the image look like) on the same time. After that I changed the time due to the change of filter (when I have decided the correct filter) and after that I dodged and burned.





However I really don't remember what I should watch after when I decide the first time. Should I check for midtones, low or high? And when I check for contrast is there any area I should look for there?





You see, I have a very vague memory that saying something like:


When I decide what time it should be I should look after the dark areas and when I look at the correct contrast I should look for the white areas.





Am I way off or what type of areas are you looking for when you decide correct time/contrast?





/ Marcus





[lellou.com]





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Re: Please, refresh my bad memory


Posted by: Dietmar Wolf (IP Logged)


Date: March 11, 2007 10:14AM








Schoolbook tells you something like this:





Use Filter 2-2.5, make teststripes one the area which should be the ';lightest with drawing'; and lay this stripe also on the area with the shadowest area.





Then decide only on the ';lightest point with drawing'; which time to use.


This time is it.





Then look at the corresponding shadow.





If the shadow is too light, increase contrast, if it is too dark, decrease contrast.





If you change contrast, you have eventually to adjust the time properly.





Then make the whole print. Then look where eventually to burn and hold off.





But this is schoolbook. There are so many ways to get to a very good print.


Stefan has described here in the forum at least twice his ways in detail.





Lately I even read a comment from an ';darkroomschoolbookwriter';, that if you start like Stefan described here once (the picture with the man in the leatherjacket on the chair), this is crazy and can never lead to a real good print... :-)))





Maybe this website is something for you. A complete other approach, but interesting enough.





[www.heylloyd.com]





There are also some technical articles and, of course, a photo of his darkroom on the site.























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Re: Please, refresh my bad memory


Posted by: Evita (IP Logged)


Date: March 11, 2007 10:45AM








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I think you mean this thread, Dietmar?





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Re: Please, refresh my bad memory


Posted by: Dietmar Wolf (IP Logged)


Date: March 11, 2007 10:58AM








Exactly. Thank you very much, Evita.





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Re: Please, refresh my bad memory


Posted by: Edward van Herk (IP Logged)


Date: March 11, 2007 10:44PM








Marcus,





Regard printing as a two step process.


First determine the time for the most important highlight (this can be a midtone on for example somebody's face). After the time satisfies you (mind the dry down effect!) then look at the shadows. Is the black really black? Has the print enough power? If not increase contrast by increasing the grade. You might want to readjust the time slightly afterwards if at the proper grade your most important highlight became darker.


By using this two step process you have much more control over the outcome and your visualised print statement.


So the time determines the brightness, the grade the difference between shadows and highlights (contrast).





Best, Edward





[www.edwardvanherk.com]





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Re: Please, refresh my bad memory


Posted by: Stefan Rohner (IP Logged)


Date: March 15, 2007 11:35AM








';';this is crazy and can never lead to a real good print... :-)))';';





why, which are the reasons?





';';lightest point with drawing';'; thats a point for beginners, but not if you want an exhibition print. or if you want the attention of tones at you main motive. first comes the main motive, then the rest.





Marcus, with the contrast you start you have to decide for your own, I start with 3


and play with the times on the first stripe, on 18x24 paper I start with 4sec. first exposure, then 6, 8, 10 and 12sec. with this first stripe you know already where to go. when my time for example is 8sec. I do a second stripe with 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10sec.





now I adjust contrast and again time if needed.





regards Stefan





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Re: Please, refresh my bad memory


Posted by: Dietmar Wolf (IP Logged)


Date: March 15, 2007 03:53PM








Hello Stefan.





That is exactly the point which makes it so difficult, at least for me. There are ';schoolbook advisors';, but with that, I dont get to a ';very good'; result.





And darkroom is my hobby and therefore, I also want ';at least some'; very good results.





But it is extremely difficult to ';pre-visualize';...





It was last year, with looking at the link, posted from Evita, I think, I got the message. It was really very interesting. Stefan Loeligers comments/pics where also always very usefull!











The other point:





';Profis versuchen Geld zu machen und haben weder die Zeit noch die Liebe ein erstklassiges Bild zu erstellen. Vielleicht wedeln sie deshalb nicht ab. Bei Ansel Adams war das eine Standardtechnik. Es ist doch einfacher einen kleinen, aber bildwichtigen, Teil des Bildes abzuwedeln als nach diesem die gesamte Belichtungszeit auszulegen und alles andere nachzubelichten. Ausserdem bestimmt man die Grundbelichtung nach den Lichtern und nicht nach den Schatten. Die sind es aber die das Abwedeln oft benoetigen. Diese 'Profis' haben keine Ahnung!';





Perhaps this is a bit out of context of the underlying thread.





This is the problem of the internet. Everywhere ';masters of light'; and at the end you dont know what to do, worse, you spend your time reading and thinking about how to do it, instead of actually going into your darkroom.





regards Dietmar
Walnuts may help, also almonds and sun flower seeds.

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